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	<title>Comments on: Forwarding Email in Leopard Server, part 2</title>
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		<title>By: paul</title>
		<link>http://thefragens.com/blog/2008/06/forwarding-email-in-leopard-server-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-856</link>
		<dc:creator>paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 17:28:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Oh, and I thought I had mine fixed last night.  Went back to the WGM -- converted the account from forwarding to a standard POP box, saved it (creates the database entry so that the mailbox is now visible in the SA:Mail:Maintenance screen).  Then went back and converted the account back to a forwarder (Maintenance still shows the box) -- but the 550 error bounce remains -- along with the successful delivery of the message to the forward target.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Grrrr.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, and I thought I had mine fixed last night.  Went back to the WGM &#8212; converted the account from forwarding to a standard POP box, saved it (creates the database entry so that the mailbox is now visible in the SA:Mail:Maintenance screen).  Then went back and converted the account back to a forwarder (Maintenance still shows the box) &#8212; but the 550 error bounce remains &#8212; along with the successful delivery of the message to the forward target.</p>

<p>Grrrr.</p>
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		<title>By: paul</title>
		<link>http://thefragens.com/blog/2008/06/forwarding-email-in-leopard-server-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-855</link>
		<dc:creator>paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 17:26:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Well, there is another solution I have yet to test:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;http://downloads.topicdesk.com/docs/Making&lt;em&gt;Virtual&lt;/em&gt;Mail&lt;em&gt;Users&lt;/em&gt;in&lt;em&gt;OS&lt;/em&gt;X_Server.pdf&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I would like to try this -- timing is off for this weekend so I can&#039;t clone my production server, test this and see what it does.  I&#039;ve also posted feedback to apple asking if they would fix this (Server Admin:Feedback) and I&#039;ve posted on the apple discussions list to see if the flaw remains in 10.6:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=2238874&amp;tstart=0&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Trying the method above, and a lot of permutations of it, didn&#039;t yield success.  Like you, I prefer to keep to the SA/WGM way of doing things -- and of nudging Apple to fix or enhance their GUI to work with the underlying technology.  Clearly some of their settings do not do precisely what Postfix is expecting -- so it is up to Apple to conform to Postfix.  There is SO MUCH they could do for this product.  Talking with Pash and other Apple engineers, I get the sense that Apple only sees the product as an Enterprise tool, and not for broader use.  Pity, that.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, there is another solution I have yet to test:</p>

<p><a href="http://downloads.topicdesk.com/docs/Making" rel="nofollow">http://downloads.topicdesk.com/docs/Making</a><em>Virtual</em>Mail<em>Users</em>in<em>OS</em>X_Server.pdf</p>

<p>I would like to try this &#8212; timing is off for this weekend so I can&#8217;t clone my production server, test this and see what it does.  I&#8217;ve also posted feedback to apple asking if they would fix this (Server Admin:Feedback) and I&#8217;ve posted on the apple discussions list to see if the flaw remains in 10.6:</p>

<p><a href="http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=2238874&#038;tstart=0" rel="nofollow">http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=2238874&#038;tstart=0</a></p>

<p>Trying the method above, and a lot of permutations of it, didn&#8217;t yield success.  Like you, I prefer to keep to the SA/WGM way of doing things &#8212; and of nudging Apple to fix or enhance their GUI to work with the underlying technology.  Clearly some of their settings do not do precisely what Postfix is expecting &#8212; so it is up to Apple to conform to Postfix.  There is SO MUCH they could do for this product.  Talking with Pash and other Apple engineers, I get the sense that Apple only sees the product as an Enterprise tool, and not for broader use.  Pity, that.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
		<link>http://thefragens.com/blog/2008/06/forwarding-email-in-leopard-server-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-854</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 17:18:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I don&#039;t seem to understand the errors. I don&#039;t really want to not use Server Admin and I guess we&#039;ll just have to accept the invalid error messages.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Currently I get a bounced message with the error&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;blockquote&gt;
  &lt;p&gt;Diagnostic-Code: smtp; 550-Mailbox unknown.  Either there is no mailbox associated with this 550-name or you do not have authorization to see it. 5.1.1 User unknown&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;p&gt;But message does get forwarded.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t seem to understand the errors. I don&#8217;t really want to not use Server Admin and I guess we&#8217;ll just have to accept the invalid error messages.</p>

<p>Currently I get a bounced message with the error</p>

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  <p>Diagnostic-Code: smtp; 550-Mailbox unknown.  Either there is no mailbox associated with this 550-name or you do not have authorization to see it. 5.1.1 User unknown</p>
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<p>But message does get forwarded.</p>
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		<title>By: paul</title>
		<link>http://thefragens.com/blog/2008/06/forwarding-email-in-leopard-server-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-853</link>
		<dc:creator>paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 16:43:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Andy,&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I&#039;ve tried your method in 10.5.8 and I still get the error posts (NDR) and the message is properly delivered, too.  Most frustrating.  Are you still working successfully?  If so, can you review your settings for us again pllease?&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andy,</p>

<p>I&#8217;ve tried your method in 10.5.8 and I still get the error posts (NDR) and the message is properly delivered, too.  Most frustrating.  Are you still working successfully?  If so, can you review your settings for us again pllease?</p>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
		<link>http://thefragens.com/blog/2008/06/forwarding-email-in-leopard-server-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-625</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2009 17:00:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Thomas, I just checked again and I still just get a warning in my SMTP.log, but the mail does get forwarded.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;code&gt;Feb 19 08:53:22 server postfix/trivial-rewrite[75819]: warning: do not list domain virtual1.com in BOTH mydestination and virtual_mailbox_domains&lt;/code&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Can you show me a screenshot of your Advanced &gt; Hosting window? You are using Server Admin, right?&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thomas, I just checked again and I still just get a warning in my SMTP.log, but the mail does get forwarded.</p>

<p><code>Feb 19 08:53:22 server postfix/trivial-rewrite[75819]: warning: do not list domain virtual1.com in BOTH mydestination and virtual_mailbox_domains</code></p>

<p>Can you show me a screenshot of your Advanced > Hosting window? You are using Server Admin, right?</p>
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		<title>By: thomas.b.hill@me.com</title>
		<link>http://thefragens.com/blog/2008/06/forwarding-email-in-leopard-server-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-624</link>
		<dc:creator>thomas.b.hill@me.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2009 06:37:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Hey,
good work there. however, i&#039;m doing exactly the same thing, and i get these NDRs&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Final-Recipient: rfc822; user@me.com
Original-Recipient: rfc822;user@mydomain.com
Action: failed
Status: 5.4.6
Diagnostic-Code: X-Postfix; alias database loop for user&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;ideas? i have reloaded postfix. and implemented a signed ssl cert. But this occurs at random even before any changes. Let me know&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey,
good work there. however, i&#8217;m doing exactly the same thing, and i get these NDRs</p>

<p>Final-Recipient: rfc822; <a href="mailto:user@me.com">user@me.com</a>
Original-Recipient: rfc822;user@mydomain.com
Action: failed
Status: 5.4.6
Diagnostic-Code: X-Postfix; alias database loop for user</p>

<p>ideas? i have reloaded postfix. and implemented a signed ssl cert. But this occurs at random even before any changes. Let me know</p>
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